tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25142730.post7245023836379441676..comments2023-04-27T04:20:37.175-07:00Comments on My Name Is IRL: VERSUS starts with a bombIannuccihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15120192496901254768noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25142730.post-22257796826508129902009-04-11T13:48:00.000-07:002009-04-11T13:48:00.000-07:00That 233k number -- households, viewers, whatever ...That 233k number -- households, viewers, whatever -- seems really freakin' low. Whatever the numbers, the're absolutely going to be domestic, and they're only going to be viewers on Versus. <BR/><BR/>To put things in perspective, San Jose Sharks broadcasts on Comcast Sports Net (a regional cable property, so only SF Bay Area with, what, 3 or 4 million households?) manages to pull over 50k, sometimes 60k households.<BR/><BR/>I find it simply unbelievable that national numbers for the IRL are only four to five times the regional numbers for the Sharks.Chuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05928938189154593714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25142730.post-73944031409426005332009-04-09T13:05:00.000-07:002009-04-09T13:05:00.000-07:00233K is the number of households, not viewers. Gi...233K is the number of households, not viewers. Given that Nielsen says there are 290 million viewers in the USA in 114.5 million households, the ratio probably equates to around 590K viewers.Grizzlornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25142730.post-90067140101735808012009-04-08T19:41:00.000-07:002009-04-08T19:41:00.000-07:00Well "Anonymous" you document what I bel...Well "Anonymous" you document what I believe with a handy link!!! I'm with you... The advertising community should FIRE Nielsen (for non-network TV) & figure out an unbiased way to harvest the info from the cable boxes. Entertainment tracks sales from retail sales... not units shipped (more accurate?)<BR/><BR/>I'm sure DISH & other Satellite TV services have a similar way to read programing info?AZZO45noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25142730.post-77394234220226879262009-04-08T18:49:00.000-07:002009-04-08T18:49:00.000-07:00I believe IndyCar.com's 2M, over Nielsen's rumored...I believe IndyCar.com's 2M, over Nielsen's rumored 230K. IndyCar probably got its number from Versus. Nielsen is an archaic way to track viewership. Almost all of us have boxes that our cable and satellite providers track viewership on. Nielsen takes roughly 5K households and statistically determines viewership for the entire country. They aren't in this house. (This is probably the same sample size used by the banks to figure out their risk exposure before the bust.) Here's how they do it on "How Stuff Works." They talk about the sample size.<BR/><BR/>http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/question433.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25142730.post-20784809255692658902009-04-08T17:45:00.000-07:002009-04-08T17:45:00.000-07:00i think its a bit premature to start panicking abo...i think its a bit premature to start panicking about ratings on versus.<BR/>There was a need to find some outlet other than espn and the joke it made of its indycar commitment and i dont think they could have picked a better time to make the move.<BR/>granted you want to ride the unification wave that was touted, using the greatest amount of exposure possible, even if it is the second year of unification But i think the unification wave somewhat ameliorates the risk of a move to versus. imagine this move befor unification.<BR/>lets face it the irl is rebuilding. it is not what it was and never will be, even if there is unimagined success in store. Its becoming something different and will rise or fall on its current merits. While stating the obvious it leads me to the point that staying on espn and being treated like an ugly stepchild is not conducive to the creation of a new and loyal fanbase. Being treated like second tier to sixth tier sports is not going to work for the irl even on espn.<BR/>i think this is the best deal the irl could get and offers the best platform from which to grow in the future. <BR/>A great product and a great RACE SCHEDULE THAT PROVIDES SUSTAINED MOMENTUM will not be successful if there is not a committed media partner -- which versus appears to be. THANKS VERSUS! <BR/>sorry for the length but i also wanted to say that the indycar web content, videos etc, has improved considerably. Way to go!!stand bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25142730.post-17432336102685259602009-04-08T17:05:00.000-07:002009-04-08T17:05:00.000-07:00I watched the race on indycar.com.anyone else doin...I watched the race on indycar.com.<BR/><BR/>anyone else doing this? If 233,000 is the tv number there cant be many on the web, are they counted? worth counting?<BR/><BR/>Also I didnt hear dave the king wilson on speedway radio. did he lose that gig prior to, or because of his wibc pink slip? I actually kind of liked his rambling updates during the races. He would have been a great addition to the trackside broadcast/podcast and this may have suited his style better.stand bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25142730.post-66719632131301862792009-04-08T12:58:00.000-07:002009-04-08T12:58:00.000-07:00On IndyCar.com, it says that 2 MILLION tuned into ...On IndyCar.com, it says that 2 MILLION tuned into Versus to watch the race. http://www.indycar.com/news/?story_id=13537Jennahttp://www.indycar.com/news/?story_id=13537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25142730.post-29665400401538603282009-04-08T12:06:00.000-07:002009-04-08T12:06:00.000-07:00233,000 is the AVERAGE!!!If St.Pete had 233,000 TO...233,000 is the AVERAGE!!!<BR/><BR/>If St.Pete had 233,000 TOTAL viewers, the INDY 500 wouldn't have 350,000+ fans in the stands in May<BR/><BR/>Bad numbers... YES. However, would you prefer the IRL to pay MILLIONS to ABC/ ESPN for those extra 342,000 "viewers"???AZZO45noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25142730.post-3095965138947014162009-04-08T09:55:00.000-07:002009-04-08T09:55:00.000-07:00Found this on Sports Business Daily so it must be ...Found this on Sports Business Daily so it must be true: <BR/><BR/>"SLOW START: Last Sunday’s Honda Grand Prix of St. Petersburg, the first-ever IndyCar Series race on Versus, earned 233,000 viewers from 2:38-5:02pm ET. Last year’s IndyCar season opener, the Gainsco Auto Insurance Indy 300 from Homestead-Miami Speedway, earned 1.1 million viewers on ESPN2 on a Saturday night in primetime. The '08 race from St. Pete, which was that season’s second telecast, earned 575,000 viewers on ESPN for a Sunday afternoon telecast (THE DAILY)."<BR/><BR/>Hard to believe. 233,000 is absolutely miniscule!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25142730.post-82865986635846245072009-04-08T08:44:00.000-07:002009-04-08T08:44:00.000-07:00The TV ratings system comes from a small "ave...The TV ratings system comes from a small "average" of the US Population. VERSUS & the IRL got the 230,000+ viewers based on a 1-2% AVERAGE.<BR/><BR/>Not everyone is a race fan so estimating the WHOLE population & hoping a bunch of racing people will be represented in that 1-2%.... <BR/><BR/>I know its used for everything, but many sports fall into "No one's Watchin" categories with Nielsen & Arbitron ratings systems.<BR/><BR/>I know they are the "industry standard" , but I think their philosophy has grown out dated & does NOT accurately represent how people are watching & the numbers.<BR/><BR/>Yes, based on the system & the older numbers... its a big plate of "NOT TOO GOOD". Perhaps, I'm drinking Positive Juice, but I think the fact that VERSUS is a jr. college compared to Division 1 ESPN explains the horror show ratings #'sAZZO45noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25142730.post-46478142729330192332009-04-08T06:29:00.000-07:002009-04-08T06:29:00.000-07:00Wow. That was a long rambling misfire of thought. ...Wow. That was a long rambling misfire of thought. Let me try again.<BR/><BR/>Millions watch Nascar, but from what I can tell Nascar doesn't generally present a good race. Furthermore, EVERY Nascar fan I've talk to here in Southern Indiana NEVER stays awake through the whole thing. (which I personally feel should be reflected in the ratings somehow) So to say people won't watch street racing because it's "boring" seems wrong to me.The American Mutthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01396701492082850805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25142730.post-28995090559498286792009-04-08T06:17:00.000-07:002009-04-08T06:17:00.000-07:00It's not because it's a street race. Things don't ...It's not because it's a street race. Things don't exist in a vaccum, and an oval start would have in all likelihood been about the same. You had to expect the numbers to be low. As Redd said, you have to make an effort to watch VS. The shame of it is ESPN sucks in every regard, not just indycar. They can't telecast for shit. <BR/><BR/>P-Dog, <BR/><BR/>How many "Racing" fans are there in America. Most Napcar fans are marketing fans who buy into the fictional drivers they're presented. Think Friday Night Smackdown with cars. I'd be willing to bet 75% of Napcar fans couldn't tell you who Niki Hayden, Ashley Force, or Lewis Hamilton are. Point being, they're a fan of Nascar, which from what i can tell hasn't provided much more than parade laps bookended with a good start and a good (ish) finish. <BR/><BR/>It's not because it's a street race. Things don't exist in a vaccum, and an oval start would have in all likelihood been about the same. You had to expect the numbers to be low. <BR/><BR/>Directed at no one in particular,<BR/><BR/>What gets me when people piss and moan about parades on streets/roads they act like it doesn't happen every year on ovals too. Nashville for instance, I for one am glad it's gone, and this after seeing it in person.The American Mutthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01396701492082850805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25142730.post-71136037292295647292009-04-08T06:08:00.000-07:002009-04-08T06:08:00.000-07:00of all my friends, I'm the only Indycar fan. of a...of all my friends, I'm the only Indycar fan. of all my friends, I'm sure I'm the only who has watched Versus, most people don't even know it's a network. people watch ESPN by accident--you have to make an effort to watch VS.<BR/> <BR/>then put a street race on a Sunday on a very obscure cable network, and then put it on against Neckcar and anyone really expected good ratings?<BR/><BR/>let's see how it improves over the course of the season, maybe that's the only logical measurement.reddnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25142730.post-44389650005700451462009-04-08T05:21:00.000-07:002009-04-08T05:21:00.000-07:00Can't compare a prime time slot with Sunday aftern...Can't compare a prime time slot with Sunday afternoon - that's the reason MLBaseball plays World Series games at night.Dale Nixonhttp://www.poisonedpens.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25142730.post-91013970837333101522009-04-08T04:40:00.000-07:002009-04-08T04:40:00.000-07:00Versus did a good job promoting it on their own ai...Versus did a good job promoting it on their own air and with the broadcast itself. Heck, I even enjoyed it. The thing is, it was a street race on a channel with a smaller possible audience. Let me know if you've heard this before -- Americans will not tune in in mass numbers (certainly not the numbers to appeal to million-dollar sponsors) -- for a street race, no matter where and when it's broadcast. Believing that they one day will is like believing 2+2 will some day equal 5.pressdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14116626812974787639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25142730.post-78497366215505573512009-04-07T23:38:00.000-07:002009-04-07T23:38:00.000-07:00There is one more stat we need before jumping off ...There is one more stat we need before jumping off a cliff together - how does that rating compare with whatever Versus had in the same slot last week? If it's up, that's good - whatever the actual figures involved. If it's down, well, you can figure it out without me...<BR/><BR/>Andy<BR/>britsonpole.comAndyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10519766252522983800noreply@blogger.com